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Extending Sensor And Valve Shut Off Wires on FloodStop Water Heater Device

by Barbara 27. March 2013 08:33

Question about the Water Heater FloodStop with 3/4" valve FS3/4NPT and extending the length of the sensor and valve shut-off wires.

Q: "I purchased a Water Heater FloodStop with 3/4" valve FS3/4NPT. How far can the controller be located away from the shut off valve? 25 feet? Can I splice the controller to shut off valve wire and add 20 feet? Can I splice the sensor wire and add 30 feet? Thanks for all your help, Jerry"

Answer: Yes, you can extend the length of both wires. The controller can be located at any distance, so 25 feet is no problem. You can do this by splicing in a similar gauge paired wire as you suggested, or you can purchase our Controller to Valve Extension Wire, which is about 8 feet long. If you ordered 4 of them and simply plugged them into each other, you would not have to go buy wire or do any splicing.

You can splice into the sensor wire and extend it by 30 feet no problem. Or you can add Floodstop Individual Water Appliance Additional Water Sensor XS-01 unitsthat each have a 3 foot long wire and interconnect to give you more water sensor coverage. We do not have a controller to sensor extension wire, as the customized length can be so varied that the manufacturer did not create one.

Thank you for your question. Your question was asked of and answered by Mary Joyce and our distributor. I found it and thought it was a great one to share with others. Extending the sensor and valve shut off wires of all the individual FloodStop automatic water sensor and automatic valve shut off devices can be done in a similar fashion.

Sincerely,

Barbara

Stop Under Sink Water Leaks With Floodstop Water Valve Unit for Hot and Cold Water Lines

by Barbara 22. July 2012 07:01

Question about the FloodStop for Sinks Lead Free Water Valve FS3/8CD.

Question: "Our neighbor recently had extensive water damage from a leak under a bathroom sink. The sink is in a rarely used bathroom. The first hint of the water leak was the damp spot on the ceiling in the room below. What product do you suggest for protecting our guest room sink which is rarely used? Thanks. Sam."

Answer:  For a single location, install the FloodStop for Sinks Lead Free Water Valve FS3/8CD. The "CD" stands for compression fitting, i.e. no soldering is required. The Floodcheck water valves connect to the angle stops and supply lines. FloodStop water valves are full port ball valves that meet the California and Vermont lead free water valve standards for drinking water.  Add additional sensors for more coverage under the sink. Do remember that you will need an unswitched electrical outlet for power: electricity is used only when the sensor detects water.

When a hot or cold water leak is detected, Floodstop shuts off the water below the sink and sounds an 87 db alarm.

Installation:

    Connect the water valve to cold and hot water lines under the sink.
    Mount the control unit.
    Place sensor(s) on floor.
    Plug power supply into an unswitched outlet. Note: electricity is used only when the sensor detects water.

NOTE: DO NOT PLACE SENSOR DIRECTLY ON METAL PAN OR DAMP FLOOR. If no water is present and alarm sounds, place paper towel or cloth under sensor to "insulate" against floor dampness or metal of pan. When the paper or cloth gets wet, the sensor activates the shut-off and sounds the alarm.

How FloodStop (FS 3/8-CD) Works:

    FloodStop valves connect to the angle stops and supply lines.
    Water leak sensor is placed at the base of the fixture (sink, laundry tubs, bathtub, etc.).
    Valve remains open until a water leak or water loss is detected.
    Water on the sensor signals the Floodstop controller which closes the valve and alarms.
    Valve remains closed until system is reset, and sensor is dry.

FloodStop (FS 3/8-CD) Components:

    Motorized Ball Valves (Two Valves, 3/8 inch Compression Fitting).
    Control unit with battery backup (4 C batteries, not included).
    AC power adaptor (or use 4 C Batteries as primary power source).
    Water leak sensor (1.25" X 7.5").
    Output contact wires (2).

Technical Specifications:

    UL Listed Class 2 Wall Adaptor, 115AC/9VDC.
    UPC listed, full port, motorized ball valves.
    Motor operates at 6VDC.
    Rated 0-180 PSI. Max 250 PSI. Solid brass.
    Signal outputs: 2 normally closed.
    Alarm: beeping with mute button.

Features:

    For added water detection protection, add more sensors. Sensors plug into sensors, NOT the Control Box.
    The 3/8 inch valve is 3.75 inches long.
    Controller has reset and test buttons to test valve performance plus battery back up.
    Easy to install, operate, and maintain.
    Designed for residential, condo and apartment dwellings.
    Full port ball valves automatically shut off water supply to sink when water sensor/sensors get wet.
    Power: 120VAC and/or battery backup (4 C batteries).
    No wires to route throughout the home.
    Alarm: beeping with mute button.
    Water Sensor: 1.5" X 7.5", double sided. Additional sensors may be added in series.
    AC Adapter Cord Length: 6 Ft.
    Wire Length from the Controller to the Valve: About 30 Inches Long.
    FloodStop Controller:
        3 buttons: Mute, Close Valve and Open Valve.
        Water sensitivity adjustment. Clockwise: less sensitive. Counter clockwise: More sensitive.
        4-pin connection to valve/sensor connector.
        Outputs: Normally closed. Contacts for any device that can utilize them, like auto phone dialers, alarm systems, X10 home automations devices.
    One year limited manufacturer warranty.

I hope this helps with your situation.

If you want whole house protection, a install the Floodstop Whole House Auto Water Valve System. This unit comes in 3/4”, 1” and 1.25” valve sizes. Included with each system are one Motorized Full-Port Ball Valve,one Controller (that shuts off the main water valve),four Sensor Modules, four sensors to place in areas you want protected, one transformer for the controller and four low voltage transformers for the sensor modules. This unit screws onto the water pipe, i.e. it is an NPT or National Pipe Thread Tapered Thread.

Go to WWW.SafeHomeProducts.com for more information.

Thank you again.

Sincerely,

Barbara

FloodStop Automatic Water Valve and Alarm for Dishwasher, Toilet or IceMaker

by Barbara 12. July 2010 22:59

Question about the Floodstop 3/8 Inch Automatic Water Shut-Off and Alarm.

Q: "Water is seeping through the floor under my dishwasher. Right now there is just a small wet spot. My basement is to be finished this winter so I want to protect the house from water leaks from the dishwasher, toilets, etc. if I can. I see that you have a device that would shut off the water to the dishwasher and sound an alarm if the new dishwasher (to be installed soon) leaks in the future. How complicated is it to install the valve? What other units are available? Thanks. Tom"

Answer: My suggestion is to have the appliance store deliver the new dishwasher and have their plumber install the Floodstop at the same time. Check your local tax laws. Currently, at least in Iowa and in Pennsylvania, you don't pay sales tax on the appliance if the store delivers the unit and does the installation. Depending upon your locale, the additional plumbing charge may be $50 and up. The protection is worth it.

Most dishwashers are next to a sink since they use the sink drain. The plumber would install one or more water sensors on the floor where the dishwasher will be placed (we recommend a minimum of two), the water valve, attach the alarm valve turn off unit to the wall (probably under your sink), and plug in the unit. The sensors should be tested by wetting them. After they are dried and the water valve is reset, then the dishwasher is installed.

The FloodStop unit for dishwashers and toilets has a 3/8 inch compression valve that connects to the angle stop and the supply line. You do need electricity unless you plan to change batteries at least once per year. (The unit draws power only to open or close the valve.) For AC, use the 4 C batteries, not included, as back-up. Contacts allow the option of connecting to phone dialers, alarm systems, X10 home automation devices, etc. There is also a 9 foot controller valve extension cord available to allow mounting of the controller in a more or less visible location. The length of cord included with Flood Stop leak detection alarms is 2.5 feet.Transformer extension wires are also available.

We also sell Floodstops for water heaters, washing machines that does not require a plumber, sinks, icemakers with 1/4 inch lines etc. All units have a one year warranty by the manufacturer. We've had customers literally saved from flooded homes from these units especially from leaking washers and water heaters.

Floodstop Dishwasher, Toilet and Ice Maker Unit Information:

* The FloodStop valve is connected to the angle stop and supply line

* Water/leak sensor is placed at the base of the appliance or fixture (Dishwasher; Sink; 3/8" Icemaker; Toilet; etc.)

* Valve stays open until water loss is detected

* Water on sensor closes FloodStop valve and sounds alarm * Valve stays closed until problem is attended to and system is reset

FloodStop 3/8 Inch Water Valve and Water Alarm Components:

1. Motorized Full-Port Ball Valve (3/8" Compression).

2. Control Unit with Battery Backup (4 C batteries, not included).

3. AC Power Adaptor (or use 4 X C Batteries as Primary Power Source).

4. Water Leak Sensor.

5. Output Contact Wires (2).

Thank you for your question.

Sincerely,

Barbara

Choosing Between a WaterCop or a FloodStop for Protection Against Water Damage

by Barbara 22. July 2009 09:23

Question: about the WaterCop and the Flood Stop

Q:"Does Safe Home Products have an opinion as to the comparison between Water Cop and Flood Stop? I've read the product guides and understand the product's features. Which is more reliable or has the best track record for water leak detection, moisture sensors, reliability, etc. ? Thanks, David S"

Answer: Both units have valves that meet the low lead/no lead standards currently in effect in California and several other states. In 2014, all states will require that valves meet those standards. Your decision needs to be made upon these factors:

1. What do you want to protect? A single appliance or several appliances? Or the whole house?  WaterCops are Made in the USA. Floodstop units are made in China and come in single water appliance units for water heaters, washing machines, sinks, icemakers, etc. or in a new whole house unit with expansion to 31 Sensor modules.
2. What do you want to spend? A Floodstop unit currently sells for well under $200 for a single appliance unit and it is easily installed.. Most sizes of the package of a WaterCop Lead Free Valve, Actuator and 3 Moisture Sensors sell  for $600 to $725. A new Floodstop Wireless Whole House System 1.0 In. NPT Motorized Ball Valve includes the FloodStop Controller, 4 Sensor Modules, 4 Wireless Moisture Sensors, 1 wire moisture sensor and 4 AC Adapters and is less expensive than the WaterCop. This has a full port, low lead motorized ball valve and each of the water sensors, if used with AC power, acts as a signal repeater. That helps if the sensor activated is at a distance from the water shut off valve.
3. Are you hiring a plumber or are you doing the installation yourself? Many do-it-yourself persons can install the WaterCop and the Floodstop units themselves. These come with NPT or threaded connections.
4. Have you a need to shut off all the water in your home with a single push of a button or remote wall switch? WaterCop offers a remote wall switch option. Remember that if a WaterHound moisture sensor alarm is activated, you will know by two ways, no water anywhere within that zone and a 65 decibel alarm. The whole house Floodstop System can be integrated with an on-line home automation software program so you can turn water on and off remotely if you install the whole house units.

Operational problems are extremely rare with either device. If you do not activate either devices at least every 30 days, you may have problems with the ball valve turning easily depending upon what kinds of minerals you have in your water. The FloodStop Whole House units automatically activate every 30 days or you can remove the cover on the controller and manually turn it on and off.

If you have only one appliance to protect and it is, for example, a washing machine, the Floodstop is easily installed without the expense of a plumber. If you want to protect several appliances (as I did), the plumber is well worth the expense as is the additional cost for a WaterCop as the basic system comes with the valve, the actuator and three water/moisture sensors. And you can always add additional sensors to the unit for other appliances. When you add the cost of 3 or 4 individual Floodstops, the costs can easily exceed those of either a WaterCop and extra sensors or a Whole House FloodStop and extra sensors. You can also buy a dual probe moisture sensor for the WaterCop and install it as I had done, under the water dispensing fridge and at the water entry point as well. The FloodStop whole house water system can respond to as many as 31 sensor modules each with dozens of moisture sensor or water sensor devices.

On the other hand, in apartment buildings or condos where each unit has its own water heater, installing a Floodstop in the 3/4 inch valve size is quite cost effective as several of our plumber customers who specialize in condo and high rise apartment buildings have concluded. And if your main worry is your washing machine, installing one of the two Floodstop units the standard AM-FS34H-90 or the INLINE Washing Machine FloodStop FS3/4H is all you may need. Add a pair of Floodchek washing machine hoses and you are as safe as a person with a washing machine can be.

The Watercop is made by one of the nation's oldest and most respected ball valve manufacturers (USA Made). These brass ball valves are used in industrial applications. The Watercop is a recent (past 6 or 8 years) products. As of December 2012, WaterCop ball valves are available only in low lead brass.

The Floodstop is made in China or a similar place. The full port brass ball valve is low lead and made to commercial standards like those made by Dynaquip whose ball valves are used primarily in applications with chemicals.

I hope this helped to answer your question.

Sincerely, Barbara

Attaching Rupture Proof FloodChek Washing Machine Hoses

by Barbara 22. November 2008 06:55

Question about using the FloodChek Washing Machine Hoses and the Product Code: =SM-FC-Gooseneck2. Gooseneck Connectors.

Q: "My washing machine sits fairly close to the wall. I'm concerned that the Floodcheck washing machine hoses are too stiff to install correctly. Can I attach these gooseneck connectors to the back of the machine so that the hoses do not stick straight out, and then attach the hoses to the free end?" Thank you. Howard.

Answer: Yes, the purpose of the goosenecks to provide an angle so the hoses do not stick straight out. We recommend the gooseneck connectors when space is tight for installation. Some customers must install two sets, one on the water supply pipes and one on the washer, to be able to use these rupture proof hoses. Floodchek hoses come in 5 feet and 7 feet lengths, have sturdy brass connectors and are guaranteed for 20 years. If you have a steam dryer, we do sell single hoses as well. Reduce the risks of water damage further by adding a FloodStop Automatic Water Valve and Alarm for Washers, FS3/4H-90 that will turn off water if the machine itself leaks, not an uncommon occurrence.

We also recommend that you add either local water alarms or a unit like the Floodstop washing machine water shut off valve with sensors. The reasons are that sometimes a slow water leak develops under a washing machine that has nothing to do with the hoses themselves. Slow leaks ultimately cause expensive repairs.

Our suggestions for water alarms are:

1. The Flood Detective: The only water alarm that features AC operation with battery back-up. 92 dB alarm. The water sensors detect water at a depth of 1/32", are wafer thin for use under carpets or small spaces and have adhesive strips to keep sensors firmly in place. Flood Detective's fail-safe technology informs you of A/C power loss or low battery levels. 8 foot cord on each sensor. Daisy chain additional water sensors to expand coverage of a single Flood Detective water alarm unit. Multi-sensor Capable: one water alarm can monitor multiple sensors. (Maximum of 5 is recommended for easier location of water leaks.) 7 year warranty.

2.The Gizmode Water Alarm : This is a battery only water alarm with a very loud alarm: Sounds at 110+ db for up to 72 hours. Construction: Sturdy ABS plastic outer shell with 4 stainless steel sensors. Powered by a single 9 volt battery (not included) Low battery warning. Tip resistant. Moisture Sensors: Sensitive to low moisture levels. Standing water not required. Stainless steel sensors: Will not corrode nor stain. Sensor contacts sink deep into carpet, thus detecting the first signs of moisture below the carpet's surface. Size: 3" Diameter x 3" Tall. Takes up minimal space. Optional Sump Pump or Water Overflow Attachment. (Sold Separately). 1 year warranty.

3. The Water Screamer Stand Alone Water Alarm, 130 dB Alarm: This is an extremely loud stand alone water alarm and moisture alarm. Remember that a smoke or carbon monoxide alarm is 85 decibels. Use this in basements, near toilets, under sinks, near water heaters, etc. Powered by a single 9 volt battery, the Water Screamer by Gizmode is 4.5 inches in diameter and 2.5 inches tall. There are four stainless steel probes. Use on carpeting or hard flooring. This is a great unit for crawl spaces, condo complexes, etc. Avoid thousands or hundreds of thousands of dollars of damage plus inconvenience by using a Water Screamer that you can hear through walls!

Thanks for your question.

Sincerely, Barbara

Shutting Off the Flood Stop for Water Heaters Remotely

by Barbara 21. June 2008 03:12

Question about the product:
FloodStop 3/4 in Valve Water Heater Shutoff COMPRESSION Product Code: : FS-3/4-C .

Q: "It looks like your system has a control box with buttons. Can I turn the system off or on with this controller placed remote from the shutoff valve? I would like to be able to turn the whole water supply off when I am away." -Kevin

Answer: The FloodStop controller must be placed near the hot water heater. The only extension wires available are for the AC adapter.

Yes, you can turn the system on and off remotely. The FloodStop Controller indeed has three buttons, mute, close valve and open valve.The outputs are normally closed. You can use contacts for any device that can utilize them, like auto phone dialers, alarm systems, X10 home automations devices., etc. There is a 4-pin connection to valve/sensor connector.

We do sell a whole house water shut off device, the WaterCop , that has a remote shut-off option. That unit is installed on the main water valve into the house. Water sensors are placed under or near appliances such as water heaters, washing machines, dishwashers, water dispensing or ice making refrigerators, etc. The remote shut off can be placed anywhere you please as long as it can be connected to the Watercop controller with Cat 5 cable.

Please contact us if you need more information. The manuals for these products are on our website.

Sincerely,
Barbara

Using Washing Machine FloodStop with Rear Mounted Water Valves

by Barbara 21. May 2008 12:11

Question about the product: Washing Machine FloodStop FS3/4H-90.

Q:"Please tell me how many inches it is from the valve connector to the inside 90 of the device. Please send diagram with measurements if possible. Our valves are located in the back of the box and I have concerns if the valves will protrude past the front cover, plus I want to install water arrestors. Thanks, Jim."

Answer: We checked with the manufacturer's rep as this was beyond our expertise. Bob's response: "I have no diagram available for him, but understand his question.

The distance from the inlet end of the valve where the spinning female threaded collar is to the inside edge of the 90 degree downward outlet end of the valve is 2 9/16 inches (slightly over 2.5 inches). The FloodStop 3/4-H90 was specifically designed for wall box type installations. Numerous wall boxes were evaluated to determine the valve design so it would fit all brands. I cannot remember when someone returned a FloodStop 3/4-H90 because the outlet end of the FS valves did not protrude past the front cover of the wall box. Typically installing water arrestors increases the extension of the FS valves out from the hot and cold water hose-bibs."

FYI: The FloodStop is a dual valved water damage control device that turns off water to a washer machine when the water sensor (placed usually under the machine) senses moisture. The newest model utilizes AC power with a battery backup and has twin ball valves that shut off the water.

Thanks for your question.

Sincerely,
Barbara

Can I Buy 3 FloodChek Washer Hoses?

by Barbara 14. May 2008 11:50

Question about Floodchek Washer Hoses ?

Question: "Can I order Three Floodchek washer hoses (that is a pair and a half?) I have a dryer that uses steam (cold water connection) so need one extra hose. Thanks. BA"

Answer: Yes, we are now splitting pairs and selling single hoses.  The hose color of the third hose may be red or blue depending upon current inventory. Other than the color, the hoses are identical. If you buy two pairs, the left over hose would work well to connect to a dehumidifier or to do that necessary annual drain of your hot water heater to get rid of the sediment.

We also have FloodChek 7 Ft Washing Machine Hoses, One Pair. We recommend that you also purchase Brass Swivel Gooseneck Hose Connectors, .75 In., TWO if you don't have much room between the washer and the wall. You may need two pairs if the wall is really close. These are needed because the Floodchek hoses are so heavy duty that they have little bend to them. The other advantages are the heavy brass couplings and the five layer construction.

Each Floodchek hose has these five layers:

  • traditional rubber tube
  • 1st layer of 23# braided rayon reinforcement
  • 2nd layer of 23# braided rayon reinforcement
  • a .012"-gauge rubber jacket
  • a .063"-gauge rubber cover.

This part of the Floodchek hose creation story, paraphrased.

In 1989 a burst washing machine hose occurred on the 34th floor of a 40 story luxury condominium in Hawaii.  The water flowed undetected from late night onto morning. An earlier riser (5:30 a.m.) got out of bed putting his feet onto a soaked carpet and called the manager. The damage was more than $200,000 to a total of 20 apartments. That is when Steve, the manager, began to work on a rupture proof washer hose. There were 400 apartments each with a washer and dryer. The result several years later was the Floodchek, which uses industrial grade hose with several layers and the highest quality machined brass couplings available.

These hoses are not inexpensive: these hoses are guaranteed for 20 years' service on the machines on which they are installed. Using them means your only risk is a leak from the machine itself. Let's be real: no one I know turns off the hot and cold water lines to their washing machines after every use! We do suggest that you also install either a local water alarm such as the The Gizmode Water Alarm, the Water Screamer Stand Alone Water Alarm, 130 dB Alarm or Flood Detective water alarm or a Washing Machine FloodStop FS3/4H-90 that includes one sensor or can use many chained together to alert you with an alarm and water shut off if your washer itself leaks.
 

Sincerely,
Barbara

Water temperature limit of a FloodStop 1.25 inch valve

by Barbara 16. January 2008 10:48

Question about the FloodStop Water Heater 1.25 Inch Ball Valve NPT

Q: "What is the temperature range of the fluid this product can handle i.e., can it be used on a hot water line?"

Answer: Yes. All the FloodStop valves can be used on residential hot water applications. Safe Home Products sells several dual-valve FloodStop models for washing machines and sinks: one of the 2 valves in each kit will be installed on the hot water supply line. The temperature range is limited to what a typical residential water heater can reach, i.e 160 degrees F. Like any valve, the FloodStop valves should not be subjected to freezing temperatures.  These are lead free ball valves.

I’m curious about your application for the FS 1.25-NPT, as this unit is typically used for water heaters where the valve is placed on the inlet (cold) water supply. If you plan to use it on a water heater, you may not have considered the valve is installed before the water heater (cold water) and not after the water heater (hot water).

Feel free to contact us if you have additional questions. Thank you for your question.

Sincerely,
Barbara